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Toyota is still going to move forward with the C-HR, but the Japanese automaker has decided to not include diesel options with their latest crossover.

Originally, the C-HR was going to be offered with a 1.5-liter, three-cylinder diesel in Europe alongside gasoline and hybrid powertrains. That’s no longer the case, but Toyota announced their intent to continue developing that specific diesel engine for other applications at the 2016 Paris Motor show.

Maybe this decision was made in wake of Volkswagen’s emissions scandal or they could have based it off of the Europe CH-R pre-orders. Toyota Chief Competitive Officer Didier Leroy told Automotive News that two-thirds of those pre-orders were for the hybrid variant with the other two powertrains sharing a third of pre-orders. Maybe buyers will change their mind when the CH-R starts hitting showroom floors, but Leroy doesn’t think the "diesel as a must" for the C-HR.

Only a quarter of Toyota’s Europe sales is comprised of diesel models and the automaker may start phasing diesel engines out of that market. In an interview with Reuters, Leroy said that if they were to renew other models today like the Auris compact, "we would probably do the same thing".

If diesel is a must, Toyota does offer it with the Auris, Yaris and RAV4 models.
 

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I thought diesel was still popular in Europe, not so much in NA. Didn't think Toyota would remove the option completely. Could this be the start of the end for Diesel in Toyota?
 

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I thought diesel was still popular in Europe, not so much in NA. Didn't think Toyota would remove the option completely. Could this be the start of the end for Diesel in Toyota?
I've always thought the same thing but it appears you may be on to something. This may just be the beginning to a shutdown of the diesel sector.
 

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Last I heard EU wanted to crack down on diesels due to how badly they're polluting. Fortunately American is now having its big wave of diesels come to market, at the same time EV's, Hybrids, etc are growing at a fast rate so we shouldn't see the negative effects the EU has seen with how much less of these diesels will be out compared to them.
 

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EU is definitely having huge issues in regards to the diesel sector. Sales are drastically low and the pollution thing isn't helping of course. Some places are just banning them completely.
 

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Diesel engines can be extremely fuel efficient too, especially in a small crossover like the C-HR. It's just the poor rep that's associated with it thanks to Deiselgate and now people are shying away from it unless they're getting a pickup truck. A diesel C-HR could have been a great vehicle for Europe and even fall under their new emissions laws.
 

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On the other hand, advancements in the gas engine have made diesel engines less attractive and there's still room to for gas engines to grow. I can understand Toyota taking it off the C-hr but if they plan to write diesel off across the board, maybe they have something up their sleeves.
 

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Definitely could.. much like Infiniti is doing with their VCT engines I think ? Diesels always were known for that much longer mileage than gasoline engines which is what made them so attractive. But now the name for diesels is as tarnished as the soot that's coming out of em' lol. It is the time of innovation however so we definitely have a lot to see coming out in our near future
 

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I wouldn't mind seeing improved petrol engines and vehicles from toyota as diesel is not as popular outside of europe.
 
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