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Chief engineer Hiroyuki Koba, hope I spelt that right, but has said that a faster version is a possibility for the US version Toyota C-HR but he did say that they really didn't have any plans yet.

He did put a C-HR prototype with 160hp version of the turbo motor (1.2L) on the good old 'ring this year so it may be a good possibility ?!
 

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It's going to be a while because if you look at what Toyota typically does, faster models don't come out till 3-4+ years down the line, but at the end of the day it depends on how well all the lower trims are selling as often that provides justification for kicking it up a notch.

When it comes to power, having performance in line with the NISMO Juke is ideal, so, targeting its 215hp @ 6000rpm is what they should do.
 

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That's definitely a reasonable amount of power. I can't see why they would shy away from a performance variant either anyhow.
 

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They probably won't start off doing it just because of how easy it will be to stand out among the competition with a regular run of mill engine that doesn't do anything special. As the market gets competitive and projections are made for where the competition will go, then we'll likely see this forced induction smaller displacement engine come to market.

Toyota is about jabs, then coming in for the punch once they see fit.
 

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Wait, if the more powerful version is using the same turbocharged engine that's already available in the C-HR, could an aftermarket company not tune it to produce 160-hp? The potential is there, we just need to unlock it.
 

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With it having a stock output of 114hp, getting to 160hp may be a little difficult but definitely possible. Start doing some more minor modifications, downpipe, etc. and you get definitely achieve a nice number probably in the 175-180 range?
 

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Most tunes will give vehicles a small bump in powers, of course the more the better, but realistically the best case scenario is around a 20 hp increase. An increase to around 175-180 range is way out there is all Toyota can squeeze out is 160.
 

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175-180 range with the addition of other modifications (bolt-ons). There's no way in heck you're getting that much power from a tune alone, that's ridiculous.
 

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The 1.2-liter turbocharged gasoline engine in the C-HR can only produce around 114hp. Would bumping the power that much not affect it negatively?
 

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It's hard to tell at this point considering we don't know much about the engine at all. It'll definitely involve a lot of test and tuning to see exactly what can be pulled out of these safely and while staying in a good afr range. Theoretically, you can make this engine run faster and be more efficient all at the same time. Now you could also make it run a lot faster and less efficient too.
 

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This is dependent on the aftermarket community, if they don't see enough demand for C-HR performance parts, they won't put the time and money into developing one.
 

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A tuning box will definitely come though. There's tuning boxes for almost everything. Especially being a Toyota product, it's bound to be there. Worst case, utilize a piggy-back system and make changes through that.
 

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If Toyota can increase the engine capacity in the race-spec C-HR to to almost 1.4 litres, then the same should be possible in the production model. Just a matter of willingness from Toyota and how cost effective that is.
 

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It depends on what they did, what those goals were, what was sacrificed in the process and then that related to what they want happening on a production level. The only problem is they will always upgrade production models slowly, incrementally, so it will be a while before we see anything serious on the streets. Toyota will milk it all they can.
 

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It will be possible. You can either get to 1.4L with a stroker kit or by boring it out. Start doing that stuff and you'll definitely be sacrificing reliability to an extent. Doubt they'll come out with one that has a modified engine to that extent. They make make intake changes and some sort of exhaust changes and tuning, but that's as far as I can really see.
 

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Well when you bring in getting high performance out to the public in volume that isn't much of a solution since it will void the warranty, that is only a solution for a minority of CH-R buyers.

What we will have to look for instead on scale is the sort of bolt on modifications that will give us a noticeable increase of power.

So its either you do that or be patient and wait for this faster CH-R.
 

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Precisely. Although tuning is something that I would wait some time to do. If down the road during the warranty period something wrong happens internally or with the ecm, they'll know that it was tuned as soon as they plug it in. That will leave you essentially screwed.

So doing bolt on modifications is the best route to go because you can always revert to stock and be good to take it in and get work done.
 
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